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Have I got a Proposition for you

November 11th, 2008 Posted in California, WTF

As everyone in the world probably is aware, Proposition 8 passed here in California.  For those who have been living under a rock or were so infatuated with Obama that you were blinded by all other activities in the world, Proposition 8 is an amendment to the California Constitution that defines marriage as being between a man and a woman.

Well, since it passed the fecal matter has been striking the air flow enhancing oscillation device.  Protests, lawsuits, statements about how churches should be burned down… you know, the normal stuff that happens when liberals lose, they throw a major league temper tantrum. Hell, we even have state lawmakers filing a suit saying that Proposition 8 should be overturned because “voters did not have the authority to make such a dramatic change in state law”.   EXCUSE ME???  Where the hell does it say in the California Constitution that the people can’t vote on amendments to it?  It’s been done before.

Gay rights activists are trying to portray this as civil rights case, which it isn’t.  They are claiming that they are discriminated against because straight people can get married and they can’t.  But here’s the problem, in California they can have civil unions which confer the SAME RIGHTS as marriage.

As Bob Parks puts it, this isn’t a civil rights issue by any stretch of the imagination:

Gays routinely equate their modern-day inconveniences with “civil rights” which is code for the black Civil Rights Movement. Roseanne, unlike gays, blacks couldn’t avoid discrimination by staying in the closet. Blacks couldn’t shed the color of their skin.

Oh, but it’s not marriage you say?  Course it’s not.  Marriage is something that is performed by a church and a priest.  It is a RELIGIOUS ceremony, not a legally binding contract under the states view.  You can have a priest stand up, do his thing, and if you don’t have that marriage license, which is a legal contract issued by the state and is – in all ways – a civil union, it’s just pretty words in the states eyes.

When my wife and I got married the pastor gave us a nice little marriage certificate suitable for framing that says the date we were married, the pastor signed it and it has a nice, official looking seal on it.   But as far as being legal – it’s about as legal as Monopoly money. The real legal document is the one issued by the state.

So, what is the difference between a civil union and marriage?  One is performed by the state (civil unions), and the other is acknowledged by the state (marriage).  Otherwise, the rights granted are the same.  But the gays aren’t happy with a civil union, they seem to want to force the religious institutions to bend to their will and marry them by threat of law. I always thought there was ‘separation between church and state’?  Isn’t that what liberals like to carry on about??  So, if there is to be a separation, how can they back a law that would essentially stick it’s nose into the church’s business?

Do I have a problem with gays wanting to get married?  Nope, not at all.  What I have a problem with is that when the votes are cast and everything is over with, if the liberals win they go on about how ‘the system worked’ and if they lose then it’s all about ‘Those evil bastards must have cheated.”  I have a problem with a minority group DEMANDING not that we tolerate them, but that we accept them.  Acceptance is different than tolerance.  Tolerance means that I may not agree with you but I TOLERATE it because it’s the civilized thing to do, acceptance means that I am just happy as a warm turd that you are doing what your doing.

I have a few friends who are gay.  If some priest wants to give them a ceremony to go with a civil union, there is no law stopping them, they still have all the benefits of marriage and the ceremony, it’s just legally called a civil union. I will just never agree with a law that intrudes on areas that are part of the churches prerogative.

Here’s a wonderful quote from a poster on the San Francisco Chronicles site

Marriage licenses are issued by governments, not religious institutions. Religious institutions can opt to perform or not perform marriage ceremonies. The only solution to this issue is to abolish marriage as we now understand it and to consider it just another contract between 2 individuals 18 years and older. There is nothing sacred about marriage – heterosexuals have been trashing the institution via divorce, bigamy, affairs, murdering spouses and children and abortion since its inception. Grow up YES ON 8 folks – your marriages are nothing more than an unholy union of one prostitute and one pimp.

Ah yes, the enlightened left “abolish marriage as we know it”.  Um, if it is such a horrible institution then why do you want to be a part of it?

One Response to “Have I got a Proposition for you”

  1. Michael Says:

    I didn’t realize that anyone at all opposed gay marriage. I’ve never heard of a church refusing to marry a gay man to a lesbian, as long as they truly love each other and are willing to stick to the commitment. I know that I don’t oppose them participating in holy matrimony, defined as being between a man and a woman. I don’t think the government has the right to define what is and is not marriage anyway, by the separation of Church and State, as you mentioned.

    As far as the last quote is concerned, of course they take the stance of “if I can’t have it, nobody should be able to.” Childish piques are kind of a mainstay for the left. It’s kind of their style of fallback defense. When all the other mantras fail, you know? They can just stamp their feet and pretend they are a bunch of six-year-olds.


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